[S3XOT] - Xtended Overview Tool

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- [S3XOT] - Xtended Overview Tool (even for the most 3XOTiC mods -
INTRODUCED 20160529 - LAST UPDATED: 20200905


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Thesis:

I have been unable to find something that brings overview on what the predominating mega-mods comprise pertaining to flotillas and playable boats.

In fact many beginners ask how the mega-mods compare and when I returned to SH3 in 2012 I asked the same question, but got no satisfying answers (mostly only "Welcome, welcome!"-bullshit on SuSi or answers like "This cannot be compared, you must compare them all by yourself") - and so I wrote a little tool that does this part for me.

The result is that I have now made such overviews myself on almost all mega-mods and I have been asked to share, but the jerks at SuSi deleted my work ('Reworking SH3 - Flotillas / Flotilla.cfg' and all the other threads that I created there). So it took me some time to rebuild it all step by step again.

And here my thread is NOT going to be spammed with stupid SuSi-welcome-crap or trolls that do not like my work. And I am not going to get infracted and brigged by assholes like JIMBUNA only because I ask trolls like Fahnenbohn=Kendras to leave my thread and let me do my work.

It is MY thread and I decide to derail it if I want to.

= Stock 1.4b =
= GWX 3.0 =
= GWX 3.0 Ducimus-Edition =
= GWR =
= WAC 4.2 =
= WAC 5.0 =
= LSH V5.1 =
= LSH V6 =
= NYGM 3.7F =
= CCoM 12.1 =
= 24F =


older mods: RUB, FF, AOTD

other: UTW, KOTA

reserved for short summarization on more old mods

reserved for comparison table

reserved for conclusion and future options

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You can safely ignore the booklet in the original DVD. That info is b/s as my program clearly proves.

Mods that use this or almost the same data:

• SEE - Seewoelfe has 1.4b data except it does not have the IXc from 01/1944, it offers the XXI from 04/1944 instead

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Last updated 20200905 for GWR V20.1

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Mind the obvious nonsense configured by Han Solo for Flotilla 3/905 (10F):
The 10F has been stationed in Lorient, not in La Rochelle!

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= LSH V5.1 = data is not clean, the procedure detects corrupt data when working on F=03:

I do not care about this mod, nor do I care about why that is so or how it can be fixed.
BLUEDUCK/LSH has not been willing to answer my questions other than that I should have first asked him
whether he still does SH3 before I ask anything else - nor has he ever been willing come to talk on TeamSpeak.
Even worse: He did not even consider to react to my questions and discusses phrases and words
once again: HA! I shall have "first politely asked whether he still does something with SH3" - oh boy...

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Several versions of LSH were bigmouthedly announced, but never released:
LSH XL
LSH 2012
LSH 2013
LSH 2014
LSH 2016
LSH 2017
LSH 2018
LSH 2019
all never released, so I took LSH V6/2015 for the following result:

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As it shows, the data in CCoM 12 is corrupt and incorrect.

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24th Flotilla Mod

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The disparity between flotilla relocation dates to France have me concerned, as we have briefly discussed. I still could not understand why the dates differ so much between the super mods and uboat.net.  We have taken the stance that uboat.net dates are accurate. This has caused me much deliberation, as I wonder why ubisoft and modders would use bad data.

Well, after doing a  bit more research, I believe it is uboat.net that is inaccurate. I have noted on both wikipedia and ubootarchive.de they have 7th Flotilla transferring to St. Nazaire on 09/1940 with final/total relocation taking place on 06/1941. This is obviously what 14b, GWX, NYGM and 24F are going by - 09/1940, the beginning of relocation of 7th Flotilla to France.

Several differences with a few other supermods:  WAC 4.1 & 5.0 to St. Nazaire 10/1941; LSH 6 (2015) to St. Nazaire 08/1940

So, with this in mind, I believe we should strongly consider going with the dates reflected in 14b, GWX, NYGM & 24F (09/1940) and require users of LSH 2016 to hold off 1 month.  Users of WAC would just have to wait until 10/1941 to transfer to France.

BL!TZ, we need to finalize this via TS3, as soon as possible so I can continue the orders template creating process for DEFORD.

You must always keep in mind who did WAC and LSH so I would not hold my breath for them to get it right.

You are correct. Tell WAC and LSH users to correct, use a patch or at least S3C.

On the other hand, John Stiebler is one of the few modders who really know what they are doing. I appreciate him.
So stick with NYGM - once again.

I am stating this because of my experiences with some modders.

That is why I wrote this tool. And I proved them utterly wrong a number of times.
UNCLEAR if Gunnar has included: fixes for Flotilla6=908 is one example.